I looked at electric violins about 10 years ago and now I can finally afford one but dont' know who the decent makers are anymore.
Of course in the meantime there's apparently been a flood of cheap scary ones from China (see ebay).
anyone on this tribe know anything about reputable makers- who's making what these days, and what pickup makers are out there?
Mark
Of course in the meantime there's apparently been a flood of cheap scary ones from China (see ebay).
anyone on this tribe know anything about reputable makers- who's making what these days, and what pickup makers are out there?
Mark
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Thu, December 28, 2006 - 11:37 PMHehehe, you, but, I totally fell for this one...
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Fri, December 29, 2006 - 12:44 AMso did you get it, or do you mean you considered it? If you did get it, just how bad is it?
that's not anything like what I"m going to buy, but just wondering, as at one point I considered building electric violins, before this flood of cheapos
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Fri, December 29, 2006 - 1:14 AMNope, i decided on a cheap chinese one to get me up and going.
stores.channeladvisor.com/2kool...11R-NT
I found it looking for a violin case (Prohibition era theatrical dance troupe), and figured it was worth the pric to give it a shot. The case wasn't what I wanted (I need the old sculpted case), but if I can lern the godfather theme, it could be worth a laugh or two.
But I came across the electric one on my search for a case and nearly bought it, just for the beauty of it.
PS anyone have a line on sheet music for the godfather love theme?
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Sun, December 31, 2006 - 12:44 PMHaven't tried it and probably won't, but this guy is local: www.jordanmusic.com/violin.htm
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Sun, January 7, 2007 - 3:40 PMHi Mark, if you're considering any violin and looking for a decent pickup, which is at the same time really (!) rockin' and for a PU (not mic!) very natural, have a look at
www.uli-boesking.de/rebo/
these are electromagnetic humbuckers. On the page you'll find lots of sound files and pix.
I'm just nodding concerning most of the chinese – hummm – material. But have a look, sometimes there is material, that's worth buying. One US westcoast guy sells zeta copies (company Musonic, China)
stores.ebay.com/Affordable-Instruments
look at the solifbodies with just ONE little "wing" (for allowing better position changes).
If you find anywhere an instrument WITHOUT headphones amp and battery compartment – an instrument of the Musonic "old series", then just HIT!
I have bought instruments of both series, so I can tell.
Musonic old series, blue, modified with REBO PU & onboard preamp
www.uli-boesking.de/inst_gal...01_gr.htm
and following pics.
Musonic old series, natural flamed, original, with cheap but not that bad Artec 8888 piezo transducer (korea) under the bridge
www.uli-boesking.de/inst_gal...07_gr.htm
The new series projection (angle neck to body) is too flat, you would have to change the bridge for a special one – normal bridges provided by luthiers are too high. The ergonomics (don't let me start) and electronics are develloped to the worse, the headphones amp just distorts – signal only on one ear!
Well, these days I'm preparing a surfrock project for bowed strings players in my school (I'm music and spanish college teacher in Bremen, Germany) – here come some funny sound files – violins, viola & cello played with REBO PU through a Fender Blues Junior
www.uli-boesking.de/surfinbela/sound.htm
oops – gotta go to bed – first schoolday tomorrow & I have to prepare lessons!
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Sun, January 7, 2007 - 4:01 PMwow, thank you , Uli, very interesting post.
Mark
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Sun, January 7, 2007 - 4:08 PMsorry – once more: this
store.musicbasics.com/vln-e30...4-4.html
is a chinese instrument from company Feng Ling. Body is OK – apart from the fact, that it ain't got rims on its ribs – a normal shoulderrest will slip off easily (I tried it in Frankfurt two ? years ago). Transducer like all similar stuff Artec 8888 piezo under the bridge. It is a semiacoustic: in shape it seems solidbody, but it's hollow.
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Thu, February 1, 2007 - 11:14 PMI've used a Yamaha "silent" violin for several years, sometimes under fairly harsh conditions (ie. Burning Man), and have been quite satisfied. Very playable and easily manipulated sound (via effects gear).
Here's a link:
www.musiciansfriend.com/produc...d-Model
This is also the best price I've seen for them.
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Thu, March 15, 2007 - 2:41 PMI'm just a beginner on the violin, so I'm certainly not an authority of what's good and what's not. For what it's worth, this is the one I have:
www.tylermountain.com/electri...ins.html
www.gainesvilleviolins.com/elec...c.htm
As you see, this model is being sold under different names and in fact, mine was resold under yet another name (couldn't find that one online though). Note that I paid less than what's listed on these web sites, more like $400 in a very rough conversion German Marks from back then to USD today.
So far, I'm happy with it. Unlike cheaper Chinese models, it's fully wooden (including the chin rest and bow), comes with a comfy shoulder rest and appears to be well-crafted. I will put on thicker strings though, and you will need an external amplifier if you want to play with headphones. -
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Fri, March 16, 2007 - 9:01 AMSome more research reveals that this model is the Straus DVFE 500 - if you search for that name, you will find stores and reviews. I could see it for ~ $350 in some online stores, so this one could be an alternative if you're on a budget.
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Tue, March 20, 2007 - 4:13 PMI'm not sure but electric violins always sounded worse than a violin with a microphone to me. Even Apocalyptica use special microphones or vibration analyzers for cellos in concerts. However, I've never played a violin in a rock band or a noisy environment. Does it work better that way? -
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Tue, March 20, 2007 - 5:31 PMI guess the same reasons apply as for playing an electric guitar vs an acoustic with microphone:
a) you want that electric sound
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Thu, March 22, 2007 - 2:09 PMSometimes people in non-electric bands use both a mic and a pickup for best control of the sound with violin (especially when recording rather than playing live), but that gives you the feedback issue. -
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Mon, April 23, 2007 - 7:36 PMI run www.fiddleforum.com Lots of posts there about Bridge, Trewer, Wood, Zeta, Yamaha, StringAmp, Sonic, Vector, Starfish, etc ,etc
Have a look. Lots of electric owners who can give you an opinion.
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Wed, April 25, 2007 - 11:41 PMoh cool, thanks so much!!! good resource.
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Sun, May 13, 2007 - 9:19 PMHi, I am not sure, but believe Zeta is located in the eastbay.
You can play with a stack of marshalls and get no feedback. -
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Wed, May 16, 2007 - 12:20 PMYou can still find them at zetamusic.com/ -
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Wed, May 16, 2007 - 12:34 PMThanks again,
I don't particularly like their electric violins,
or the feel of any electric violin, so
I bought their bridge and put it on one of my acoustics,
that was about 10 years ago, and with an equalizer
rocks any band I've played with.
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